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		<title>Comment on Big Pharma hypocrisy by Grandad</title>
		<link>http://smokingoutthetruth.com/2012/04/20/big-pharma-hypocrisy/#comment-2172</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Welcome Mom!  It never ceases to amaze me how people just can&#039;t see the obvious unless it&#039;s handed to them on a plate with a sprig of parsley on top.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Mom!  It never ceases to amaze me how people just can&#8217;t see the obvious unless it&#8217;s handed to them on a plate with a sprig of parsley on top.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big Pharma hypocrisy by Mom</title>
		<link>http://smokingoutthetruth.com/2012/04/20/big-pharma-hypocrisy/#comment-2171</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so true! I am glad someone points it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so true! I am glad someone points it out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Analysing Second Hand Smoke by Catherine Allen</title>
		<link>http://smokingoutthetruth.com/2012/04/10/analysing-second-hand-smoke/#comment-1805</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic piece of writing, I often disagree with these &#039;studies&#039; as they do seem to stretch the truth, the bit about non smoking partners? How many partners of smokers die from eating burgers etc? They do not give comparisons to any of their facts. Keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic piece of writing, I often disagree with these &#8216;studies&#8217; as they do seem to stretch the truth, the bit about non smoking partners? How many partners of smokers die from eating burgers etc? They do not give comparisons to any of their facts. Keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell a lie often enough by Joe Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smoking extends your life and protects you from certain cancers.   If you seek for the truth, you shall find it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoking extends your life and protects you from certain cancers.   If you seek for the truth, you shall find it. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by Lyn</title>
		<link>http://smokingoutthetruth.com/2012/04/03/do-bans-cause-heavier-smoking/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s an irony that I think few would even recognise today.  Sadly, very true, Ileweton.

Recently in our small town we had a dispute on road names on a new housing estate.  The new estate is next to the cemetery where airmen from the Commonwealth, particularly Canada, died from injuries whilst helping to protect our shores.  They were stationed at local airfields and many residents deemed it right that the roads be named after them.

The &#039;almight&#039; Town Council wanted to name them differently, something so inane I can&#039;t remember what they were now.  Said council were extremely put out when the District Council sided with residents and the roads are being named after these valant airmen.

Still, the town council have shown their true colours in objecting and their complete contempt for the people they are supposed to represent, just as main government have.  Many of the council, if not born before or during the 2nd World War, were born not long after, but how soon they forget.

I wasn&#039;t born until the 50&#039;s but my grandad used to tell me about the wars, he served in the 1st and was involved in the 2nd, although too old for active service.  His brother also joined up for the 1st World War, despite being under age!

It makes me very bitter that so many gave their lives, freely, just to be forgotten after such a relatively short time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s an irony that I think few would even recognise today.  Sadly, very true, Ileweton.</p>
<p>Recently in our small town we had a dispute on road names on a new housing estate.  The new estate is next to the cemetery where airmen from the Commonwealth, particularly Canada, died from injuries whilst helping to protect our shores.  They were stationed at local airfields and many residents deemed it right that the roads be named after them.</p>
<p>The &#8216;almight&#8217; Town Council wanted to name them differently, something so inane I can&#8217;t remember what they were now.  Said council were extremely put out when the District Council sided with residents and the roads are being named after these valant airmen.</p>
<p>Still, the town council have shown their true colours in objecting and their complete contempt for the people they are supposed to represent, just as main government have.  Many of the council, if not born before or during the 2nd World War, were born not long after, but how soon they forget.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t born until the 50&#8242;s but my grandad used to tell me about the wars, he served in the 1st and was involved in the 2nd, although too old for active service.  His brother also joined up for the 1st World War, despite being under age!</p>
<p>It makes me very bitter that so many gave their lives, freely, just to be forgotten after such a relatively short time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by lleweton</title>
		<link>http://smokingoutthetruth.com/2012/04/03/do-bans-cause-heavier-smoking/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>lleweton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I agree with your suggestions Lyn. As to the war, I remember - I was a child then - that &#039;snoopers&#039; were figures of fun, as were over-officious air raid wardens. People who exploited a tiny bit of power were thought of as &#039;pocket Hitlers&#039;. Now such people seem to have taken over.

There is a pub, which still passes for the description in our old market town; it has beer mats, last time I looked - through the windows - in the design of RAF roundels. In our county there were many airfields and I remember seeing on the walls of one hostelry here, the faded black and white, wartime pictures of aircrews from the time, smiling into the camera... If a time machine were to bring them 70 years forward until now I wonder what they would make of the fact that while their tankards rest on those beer mats they must go outside for their Players, Weights, Woodbines and Senior Service. It&#039;s an irony that I think few would even recognise today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I agree with your suggestions Lyn. As to the war, I remember &#8211; I was a child then &#8211; that &#8216;snoopers&#8217; were figures of fun, as were over-officious air raid wardens. People who exploited a tiny bit of power were thought of as &#8216;pocket Hitlers&#8217;. Now such people seem to have taken over.</p>
<p>There is a pub, which still passes for the description in our old market town; it has beer mats, last time I looked &#8211; through the windows &#8211; in the design of RAF roundels. In our county there were many airfields and I remember seeing on the walls of one hostelry here, the faded black and white, wartime pictures of aircrews from the time, smiling into the camera&#8230; If a time machine were to bring them 70 years forward until now I wonder what they would make of the fact that while their tankards rest on those beer mats they must go outside for their Players, Weights, Woodbines and Senior Service. It&#8217;s an irony that I think few would even recognise today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point, Ileweton and agree.

However, the solution is really very simple - have smoking venues and non smoking venues.  I am not in favour of separate smoking rooms, it is still too easy for the antis to rise up in horror and declare they could smell a bit of smoke coming under the door!

By having completely separate venues then those who choose to enter a smoking venue do so with the full acceptance that people inside will be smoking; those entering a non smoking venue will do so with the full understanding that no-one will be smoking and, if you happen to be a smoker, you have accepted, by entering such a place, that you will not be allowed to smoke.

Problem solved for all.  After all, the issue of staff is no real hurdle as there are plenty of smokers who would be glad of the jobs, to start with, all of those who lost their jobs when the pub or club they worked in closed after the ban due to lack of trade!

I do agree that things would be so much better if the pendulum stopped in the middle and we could all return to allowing the individuals that we are to  live and let live.  It is a crying shame that the lessons of tolerance towards our neighbours and the looking out for each other after the 2 Great Wars is now lost in the nanny state where instead people &#039;snitch&#039; on each other for the pettiest of things.

It is also very sad and abhorrant that those that gave their lives and their health to fight for our freedom are thought so little of now by recent governments that they are happy to forget the sacrifices made and cast democracy aside in their quest to micromanage every part of our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point, Ileweton and agree.</p>
<p>However, the solution is really very simple &#8211; have smoking venues and non smoking venues.  I am not in favour of separate smoking rooms, it is still too easy for the antis to rise up in horror and declare they could smell a bit of smoke coming under the door!</p>
<p>By having completely separate venues then those who choose to enter a smoking venue do so with the full acceptance that people inside will be smoking; those entering a non smoking venue will do so with the full understanding that no-one will be smoking and, if you happen to be a smoker, you have accepted, by entering such a place, that you will not be allowed to smoke.</p>
<p>Problem solved for all.  After all, the issue of staff is no real hurdle as there are plenty of smokers who would be glad of the jobs, to start with, all of those who lost their jobs when the pub or club they worked in closed after the ban due to lack of trade!</p>
<p>I do agree that things would be so much better if the pendulum stopped in the middle and we could all return to allowing the individuals that we are to  live and let live.  It is a crying shame that the lessons of tolerance towards our neighbours and the looking out for each other after the 2 Great Wars is now lost in the nanny state where instead people &#8216;snitch&#8217; on each other for the pettiest of things.</p>
<p>It is also very sad and abhorrant that those that gave their lives and their health to fight for our freedom are thought so little of now by recent governments that they are happy to forget the sacrifices made and cast democracy aside in their quest to micromanage every part of our lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About non smokers grabbing a smoke from smokers while outside a pub; when in the smoking area at Bristol Airport a couple of years ago I came across a woman who had never smoked, until the smoking ban came in.

She said she got fed up with always being left sitting inside looking after all the drinks whilst her friends and family were outside smoking and having a good old laugh and chinwag.  She decided that if she couldn&#039;t beat them, she would join them.  As you say, she then gave a cigarette a try and that led to another and now she smokes around 20 a day!

Brilliant tactic by the government, don&#039;t you think?

My other thought with the smoking ban was that perhaps it had to do with the government being in dire straights with regard to paying pensions.  People who have smoked all their lives, particularly once they reach their twilight years, often - it seems to me - die within a year when they give up smoking.  This would relieve the pressure somewhat on the pension fund.  If they didn&#039;t give up then presumably government hoped they would die of pneumonia contracted by being shut outside in the freezing weather in order to enjoy their little pleasure.  

Just a thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About non smokers grabbing a smoke from smokers while outside a pub; when in the smoking area at Bristol Airport a couple of years ago I came across a woman who had never smoked, until the smoking ban came in.</p>
<p>She said she got fed up with always being left sitting inside looking after all the drinks whilst her friends and family were outside smoking and having a good old laugh and chinwag.  She decided that if she couldn&#8217;t beat them, she would join them.  As you say, she then gave a cigarette a try and that led to another and now she smokes around 20 a day!</p>
<p>Brilliant tactic by the government, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>My other thought with the smoking ban was that perhaps it had to do with the government being in dire straights with regard to paying pensions.  People who have smoked all their lives, particularly once they reach their twilight years, often &#8211; it seems to me &#8211; die within a year when they give up smoking.  This would relieve the pressure somewhat on the pension fund.  If they didn&#8217;t give up then presumably government hoped they would die of pneumonia contracted by being shut outside in the freezing weather in order to enjoy their little pleasure.  </p>
<p>Just a thought!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by lleweton</title>
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		<dc:creator>lleweton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Lyn, and because of the judgmentalism surrounding it, this is a subject which I have found it best not to raise with my friends (some lifelong) and acquaintances, and some relatives, for fear of a  wounding quarrel developing. This has happened in the past.  It is also a controversy which, as far as I can judge, does not touch on people in my immediate, pleasant neighbourhood, with its genuinely nice and loving residents, of whom I am truly fond, and it would seem inappropriate to raise it.
This creates another form of isolation: the dark side, maybe, of the &#039;peer pressure&#039; which was once referred to as a way of reducing smoking. In my environment I am one in a very small minority. Maybe, even among people of great sensitivity and insight, there has to be some sense of identity with the person under attack. As an example, one activity which I&#039;ve never been inclined to undertake is betting. If a gradualistic, step by step programme of discrimination and social exclusion of gamblers were introduced, I  probably would not even notice for some time. If and when I began to perceive and note the protests I would have to exercise imagination and empathy to see the situation from the gambler&#039;s point of view. And I would have to be awake and fair-minded enough to adopt that approach. I might be a very decent sort of person but, maybe, the practice of betting would seem to me so outre as for it not to occur to me (at first) to recognise the need for fair mindedness and tolerance in that situation
From the point of view of those offended by smoking there was a time when the reverse situation applied and when they were in a social minority - their complaints, when voiced, sometimes/often spurned and mocked. In fairness we should recognise that. What all might happily appreciate in this nasty controversy is that everyone would gain if the pendulum were allowed to return to the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lyn, and because of the judgmentalism surrounding it, this is a subject which I have found it best not to raise with my friends (some lifelong) and acquaintances, and some relatives, for fear of a  wounding quarrel developing. This has happened in the past.  It is also a controversy which, as far as I can judge, does not touch on people in my immediate, pleasant neighbourhood, with its genuinely nice and loving residents, of whom I am truly fond, and it would seem inappropriate to raise it.<br />
This creates another form of isolation: the dark side, maybe, of the &#8216;peer pressure&#8217; which was once referred to as a way of reducing smoking. In my environment I am one in a very small minority. Maybe, even among people of great sensitivity and insight, there has to be some sense of identity with the person under attack. As an example, one activity which I&#8217;ve never been inclined to undertake is betting. If a gradualistic, step by step programme of discrimination and social exclusion of gamblers were introduced, I  probably would not even notice for some time. If and when I began to perceive and note the protests I would have to exercise imagination and empathy to see the situation from the gambler&#8217;s point of view. And I would have to be awake and fair-minded enough to adopt that approach. I might be a very decent sort of person but, maybe, the practice of betting would seem to me so outre as for it not to occur to me (at first) to recognise the need for fair mindedness and tolerance in that situation<br />
From the point of view of those offended by smoking there was a time when the reverse situation applied and when they were in a social minority &#8211; their complaints, when voiced, sometimes/often spurned and mocked. In fairness we should recognise that. What all might happily appreciate in this nasty controversy is that everyone would gain if the pendulum were allowed to return to the middle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do bans cause heavier smoking? by prog</title>
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		<dc:creator>prog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m undecided whether of not to ask smokers who don&#039;t smoke in their own homes to step outside my place should they want a fag. It&#039;s seem&#039;s impolite and churlish. On the other hand, I have little respect for those who have happily accepted denormalisation. I usually resort to asking them why the the fuck don&#039;t they go the whole hog and quit. TBH, I can&#039;t understand the mentality. One couple I know will happily smoke a spliff (with baccy) inside then hubby will go outside for a fag. Bloody strange behaviour.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m undecided whether of not to ask smokers who don&#8217;t smoke in their own homes to step outside my place should they want a fag. It&#8217;s seem&#8217;s impolite and churlish. On the other hand, I have little respect for those who have happily accepted denormalisation. I usually resort to asking them why the the fuck don&#8217;t they go the whole hog and quit. TBH, I can&#8217;t understand the mentality. One couple I know will happily smoke a spliff (with baccy) inside then hubby will go outside for a fag. Bloody strange behaviour&#8230;..</p>
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